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Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

The Meaning of Life with Authur Brooks

Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew

Shawn Johnson + Andrew East

Society & Culture

5.039.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Back for round two, we sit down again with Arthur Brooks to go even deeper into the science and soul of a meaningful life. In this conversation, we move beyond the fundamentals of happiness and explore what it really takes to sustain it—especially through change, success, setbacks, and the evolving chapters of life. Arthur shares fresh insights on emotional resilience, the hidden challenges of achievement, and how our definition of purpose shifts over time. We also get personal, unpacking habits, mindsets, and daily practices that can help you stay grounded, connected, and fulfilled in a fast-moving world. If you’ve ever wondered how to not just find happiness—but keep it—this episode is for you. Drop your thoughts, questions, or takeaways in the comments—we always love hearing how these conversations resonate with you. And if this episode speaks to you, send it to someone who could use it right now. Love you guys! Shawn & Andrew Subscribe to our newsletter ▶ https://www.familymade.com/newsletter Follow our podcast Instagram ▶ / shawnandandrewpods Follow My Instagram ▶ / shawnjohnson Follow My Tik Tok ▶ / shawnjohnson Shop My LTK Page ▶ https://www.shopltk.com/explore/shawn... Like the Facebook page! ▶ / shawnjohnson Follow Andrew’s Instagram ▶ / andrewdeast Andrew’s Tik Tok ▶ https://www.tiktok.com/@andrewdeast?l... (00:00) the meaning of your life (01:25) ready for part two with arthur? (02:26) the macronutrients of happiness (05:45) why can’t you articulate meaning? (07:25) the effect of the technological world (10:30) when should you “know” the meaning of your life (14:50) is it possible to learn meaning if you only know “screens”? (19:20) habits and relationships aren’t meaning (23:00) the matrix is lying to you (24:08) we are a kin-based species (29:55) “you can’t be each other’s idol” (35:25) having a noble struggle (37:17) practice, then feel (40:40) the first two steps of meaning (51:20) should we do a part 3? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up, everybody?

0:01.1

Welcome back to a couple things, interviews.

0:02.5

With Sean and Andrew.

0:03.5

Today we brought back, I think I have to say it, our favorite.

0:07.5

I think it's our favorite podcast we've ever done,

0:09.6

and maybe my favorite person we were had on the podcast.

0:11.8

But we brought back the one and only, Arthur Brooks.

0:15.5

Arthur Brooks just wrote another wonderful book called The Meaning of Your Life. I can't think of anything more important

0:23.8

than diving into this topic and trying to figure out the meaning of your life. And Arthur Brooks

0:29.6

is an incredibly balanced, really wise, and I think fair mentor to talk about this subject.

0:39.8

Also, if you ever have the chance to listen to him, even outside of this podcast, I highly

0:44.8

recommend it. I will attend any class he has. I will attend any seminar, any speech.

0:49.9

He is truly one of the wisest people I've ever met my entire life.

0:54.4

Arthur, thank you for joining us.

0:55.8

We will link information to the book down below as well as information on Arthur.

1:00.7

He has his own show, his own website.

1:02.4

Honestly, this guy is amazing and it gets involved in a lot of different things.

1:07.1

Just pick up one of his books and look at his quotes that people have sent in about his book, and you'll realize, you'll understand. So thank you, Arthur, for giving us your time. And without further ado, we bring you the incredibly wise and generous Arthur Brooks. Arthur Brooks, welcome back. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. Round one was so great. We had to do round two.

1:29.0

We are so excited to have you.

1:39.3

Yeah, me too. We talk about your interview probably on a daily basis, how the amount of wisdom you just spew out.

1:43.1

Spue. That's what my kids are like, spew it, dad. I've had to go back and listen to our podcast multiple times because in one sentence, you just casually will say something where I'm like, I have to think about that for the rest of the year. And then it's truly just such a pleasure. Well, thank you. Thank you. I love your show. And what you're doing on social media, which is, I mean, the show is not just a show. I mean, you slice and dice it into all kinds of ways that can help people and you're lifting people up. And I love to see it. Thank you. I love to be a small way, a part of it. And by the way, I got your honey. Oh, good. Your honey is a big hit in my family. All the branches of my family have a bottle of the special honey.

2:19.9

Good.

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