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THIRD EYE DROPS

The Meaning Crisis, Platonism and Mystical Experiences with John Vervaeke | Mind Meld 372

THIRD EYE DROPS

Michael Phillip

Spirituality, Development, Philosophy, Psychedelic, Comedy, Psychology, Mckenna, Future, Plato, Rogan, Science, Society & Culture, Watts, Trussell, Mind, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 21 December 2023

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Philosopher, Cognitive Scientist and University of Toronto Professor, John Vervaeke returns to the mind meld!

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In this one, we muse about the immortal wisdom of Platonism and Zen Buddhism. We also riff on the importance of direct, embodied experiences (both mystical and mundane), why reductionism is doomed, and why reality is neither top-down (created) or bottom-up (emerging), but both. Other topics include the meaning crisis, Carl Jung, how the above merge with modern cognitive science, and more.

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Now administering third eye drops. If you remember in the

0:15.0

remember in the allegory of the cave which is in the republic

0:21.0

the philosopher not only ascends to see the sun, the philosopher then descends back into the cave.

0:28.2

And Plato takes great pains to emphasize that is as important as the ascent out.

0:33.7

And so this is one of the new things that's happening,

0:35.7

is a reorientation to not just the ascent up,

0:39.2

but the return back.

0:41.0

Why is tracing out that whole line up and down important? I think what we're dealing with there are the kinds of knowing that ultimately ground our ability to make sense to

0:56.6

participate in the intelligibility of reality. Reality makes sense to us and that is

1:01.4

not properly or exclusively being done by a propositional knowing.

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