The McCann 'Stalkers' - The end of the “charade”

The Trial

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🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Julia Wandelt accuses Gerry McCann of being involved in the abduction of his daughter Madeleine. She also says he has silenced his wife Kate and she claims officers from The Met may also have threatened her. She said she feels vulnerable since telling her story because people “don’t want the truth to come out.” But, in the final day of her giving evidence, she was accused of fabricating evidence and of creating a charade.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Trial UK, The McCann Stalkers.
0:09.0	I'm Caroline Cheatham and I'm Claire Duffin.
0:12.0	Today Julia Vandelle told a court she still believes she might be Madeline McCann.
0:17.0	She said until she sees the documents proving her DNA is not a match, she can't say one way or the other.
0:23.3	She admitted leaving Kate McCann a voicemail telling her she was corrupt and accusing her of not wanting to find her daughter was wrong.
0:31.7	And she accused Gerry McCann of being involved in the abduction of his daughter and of silencing his wife.
0:37.8	During more days of emotional evidence in court, Julia Van Delt broke down several times and said
0:43.9	she didn't deserve to be in prison or in the dock.
0:48.0	And she said Kate McCann cried when she saw her because she knew she might be Madeline.
0:53.2	Welcome to episode nine, the end of the charade.
1:22.1	The End of the Sherrard. So it's October the 31st Halloween and we're at the end of week four of this trial.
1:30.1	And Julie Vandelle has now finished giving evidence in her own defence to the charge that she and Karen Sprague stork the family of Madeline McCann. Now, the prosecution case against Julia Van Delt is that she
1:35.1	carried out what's been called a relentless campaign of harassment over several years after she
1:42.0	claimed that she was Madeline McCann. The case against Karen's
1:46.6	brag is that she helped her. So it's been a long week for Julia Van Delt in the witness box
1:52.6	and at times Caroline, her evidence has been emotional. She has broken down several times and at one
1:58.2	point again we had to have a break so she could compose herself.
2:01.4	And she also said at one point that she had cried during the lunch break too.
2:05.0	We'll also come, as usual, to her evidence and to what she had to say as she was pressed
2:09.5	by the prosecutor Michael Duck at times around what she's alleged to have done and said to Kate McCann.
2:14.6	Yeah, so on Tuesday in our episode, we finished with that evidence around how a
2:19.6	PR man from the UK called Sir Jat Sinclair and a self-declared psychic from the US called
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