4.7 • 18.3K Ratings
🗓️ 3 December 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
In 1620 the Pilgrims arrived in a land already shaped by centuries of Native history. For the people who lived there, the Wampanoag, it was Patuxet—a place with its own stories, its own politics, and, as the Pilgrims soon learned, a complicated history of encounters with Europeans.
In this episode Lindsay is joined by David Silverman, professor of history at George Washington University and author of This Land Is Their Land: The Wampanoag Indians, Plymouth Colony, and the Troubled History of Thanksgiving. He helps us imagine the arrival of the Mayflower from the Wampanoag point of view—what they saw, what they feared, and what choices lay before them.
Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletter
Listen to American History Tellers on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Experience all episodes ad-free and be the first to binge the newest season. Unlock exclusive early access by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial today by visiting wondery.com/links/american-history-tellers/ now.
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Picture this. You're transported back in time, witnessing history unfold right before your eyes, without any modern day interruptions. |
| 0:07.3 | That's the magic of Wondery Plus. |
| 0:09.2 | Immerse yourself in the stories that shaped our nation with ad-free episodes, early access to new seasons, and exclusive bonus content. |
| 0:16.1 | Join Wondry Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts and experience American history like never before. |
| 0:31.0 | From Wondery, I'm Lindsay Graham, and this is American History Tellers, Our History, Your Story. |
| 0:53.3 | Thank you. And this is American history tellers, our history, your story. In our series on the Mayflower, we traveled with a group of desperate religious dissidents |
| 0:58.2 | as they sailed from England to the Netherlands and then to Plymouth in what would eventually |
| 1:02.4 | become known as New England. But it wasn't called that by the people who lived there at the time, |
| 1:07.4 | the Wampanox. They knew the place where the pilgrims settled as Patuxet, and much to the |
| 1:12.6 | surprise of the newly arrived English colonists, they had prior experience with Europeans. |
| 1:18.2 | In this episode I speak with David Silverman, a professor of history at George Washington University. |
| 1:23.4 | He's the author of This Land is Their Land, the Wampanog Indians, Plymouth Colony, and the troubled |
| 1:28.5 | history of Thanksgiving. David will take us back to 1620 to imagine what the encounter |
| 1:33.7 | with the Pilgrims might have been like from the Wampanog perspective. Our conversation is next. |
| 1:41.5 | American History Tellers is sponsored by Indeed. |
| 1:45.9 | My business is a bit peculiar. |
| 1:49.6 | There are way more ordinary ways to make a living than podcasting, for sure. |
| 1:54.6 | But when it comes to hiring, though the skills are different, the needs are the same for any business. |
| 2:00.2 | You need specific experience, a set of talents unique to your business, and a match for your culture. |
| 2:02.9 | That's exactly what makes hiring so hard. |
| 2:05.0 | Every position is looking for a unicorn. |
| 2:07.7 | But here's the thing with Indeed sponsored jobs. |
... |
Transcript will be available on the free plan in 3 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Wondery, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Wondery and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.