meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
More or Less

The maths of rioting

More or Less

BBC

News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2011

⏱️ 28 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In More or Less this week: riots, debt, disability benefit and when to buy a lotto ticket.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Thanks for downloading the Morales podcast from BBC Radio 4. Here's Tim Halford.

0:05.3

Hello and welcome to Morales, a statistical water cannon that we're not afraid to use.

0:11.6

Over the next 27 minutes we'll try to answer one of the least pressing questions of the week.

0:16.4

When should you buy a lottery ticket to make it more likely that you'll win

0:21.3

than die before the draw takes place? But we'll also be dealing with the financial crisis.

0:26.9

And first of all, with the riots and looting across English cities this week,

0:31.4

why did they happen? Was it the cuts, soft policing, a broken society, and can look at the numbers,

0:37.8

tell us more? Here's Harriet Harmon, Labour's deputy leader.

0:41.8

There is a sense that young people feel they're not being listened to. That is not to justify

0:45.8

violence, but I think that when you've got the troubling of tuition fees, they should think

0:50.0

again about that. When you've got the EMA being taken away, when you've got jobs being cut and

0:55.2

youth unemployment rising and they're shutting the job centre in Campbellwell, well, you should

1:00.0

think again about that because this is going to cost money. This does not help. All of this does not

1:05.9

help reduce the deficit. Okay, well, let's try to figure this out. Here's Phil Kemp. Phil,

1:11.7

you've been hard at working all this. What have you found? Or Harriet Harmon seemed to be suggesting

1:15.7

that budget cuts were linked to the riots. But the journalist Toby Young writing in his daily

1:20.8

telegraph blog rejects that argument and he quotes figures to prove it. He says that average

1:26.8

monthly public expenditure in the year ending June 2011 was actually higher than the year ending

1:33.6

June 2010. So he's basically saying that there haven't been any cuts yet? Is that true?

1:38.2

Yeah, well, basically it is true that even adjusting for CPI inflation, the government

1:42.3

did spend more last year than Labour did the year before. So Toby Young, yeah, he's right about that.

1:47.6

Okay, well, I'd like to look a little closer at this. We've heard this kind of claim before and

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.