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Welcome to the busted open podcast.

This is our master's class and we're here with our

Masters of the Ring Tommy Dreamer Bullier, and our topic for our class today is shock and awe.

How can you shock your audience in 2024?

We're kind of using the springboard of what we saw in the main event of Monday Night

Raw this past Monday with Bronson Reed and Bronnroman and a lot of what we saw and maybe things that we have seen before.

You shocked an audience, but there's a certain audience maybe that you didn't shock there was an audience that was in an awe and there may have been a certain audience that wasn't in awe.

So this is interesting because I'd love to hear the feedback from all three of you of like,

is there a challenge and the challenges of shocking an audience in 2024.

Tommy, how do you shock the wrestling audience in 2024?

And isn't different than previous decades and generations?

Is it different? Yes, but you always got to go back to the past to recognize the future.

Bullying myself have been... past to recognize the future.

Bullie and myself have been

blessed to see a lot of firsts in pro wrestling.

I think with, you got to think of your creative and have like this like just thinking next level which Paul

Heeman always did when I think about first person to go through the ring tasbam bambigolo first person to go through the ring, Taz Bam Bam Bigelow, first person to go through the stage,

Taz Bam Bam Bigelow, things that when you talk about shock go back and watch that moment.

The referee how he sold it, how the

fans, like they didn't know what the hell was going to happen because we're the first

time ever. Myself, the first person to kick out of Jimmy Snooker's Super 5 Splash, when people, the audience went silent and they were like what? The first pregnancy angle in wrestling people were like it turns soap opera they were like

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