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Welcome to the Busted Open podcast, the Masters class.

And here I am Dave Legreca with our

Masters of the Ring, Tommy Dreamer, Bully Ray, Mark Henry, and boy, do we have a great topic

for the Busted Open Nation today. And the topic is fear. You know, we've seen a lot of gimmick

matches. We've seen a lot of stipulation matches

throughout the years in pro wrestling. But what I'm going to ask our Masters of the Ring

in our master's class today is, were you ever afraid going in to a stipulation match? And of course,

we have Tommy Dreamer, Mark Henry, and bully race. So Mark, I'll start

with you. Was there a stipulation match that when you saw your name attached to it, you were like,

oh my God. Dave, I did not want to see my name next to this match this is crazy but everybody knows i'm afraid of heights

spiders snakes scary movies oh my okay a lot of things needles like i have a lot of phobias

i don't like scary stuff, Dave.

Damn it.

Drops.

But I actually had to do it.

And, you know, there was ways around it.

I talked about, you know, there was ways around it. I talked about, you know, the being in the ladder match and doing all, everything I could to not have to climb.

Like, that was me grabbing the brass ring or me grabbing a briefcase or me, I didn't want to win that bad.

And there was a point where I had to climb the ladder and Fit Finley was going to come and hit me with a shaleli and knock me off.

But Fit wanted to see how far that I would climb just to entertain himself.

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