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Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Criminal Broads, a true crime and history podcast about wild women on the wrong side of the law. I'm Tori Telfer, author of books like lady killers and confident women,

both of which are about female criminals. And I'm going to keep this introduction short because

today's case is a really long one, because today's case is a really twisty one, because today's

case is full of lunatics, as so many of these cases are. We're going to Hawaii today, guys, and we're going

to the 1930s, which normally I would say, isn't that fun? Isn't it fun to be in the 1930s?

Just think how nice the fashion is, but not today. That's not what I'm saying today. I want to cite

a source I leaned very heavily on for this episode, this fantastic book called,

well, it's by David Stannard, and it's called Honor Killing, Race, Rape, and Clearance Darrow's

spectacular last case. So now I've said too much already about the episode. Let's get into it.

Yeah. Get into it. I love a good story about rich women behaving badly.

And there are two rich women at the center of this story, Thalia Massey and her mother, Grace.

Well, they were rich-ish.

They were the sort of rich people who had an impeccable pedigree, and they were always staying in mansions, and they secretly had no money left. And maybe that's why they behaved badly, a certain arrogance, a feeling like they had to maintain appearances at all costs. Or maybe it was something darker. But yes, here today we have the story of two rich women behaving badly. And there are fun parts. There's a moment in the story

where someone fills a ship full of flowers. Someone else wears a long, silky, fur-trimmed

evening gown, which is just delightful.

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