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Earlier this year, the James Webb Space Telescope allowed us to see mesmerizing images of the

universe that we had never seen before.

Today, an astronomer who oversaw the telescope, Heidi Hamill, sits down with science journalist

Nadia Drake in an interview recorded for Ted Women Presents in 2022.

They talk about what makes the Webb Telescope and its capacities so extraordinary.

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On this show, we talk to some of the world's most interesting people to dig into the provocative

and powerful ideas of our time.

On the latest episode, Dr. Chanda Prescott Weinstein talks about her quest to decode the universe

and her own search for meaning.

You can be pretty miserable as a scientist if you go into science only wanting to get

to the answers because most of your life is the process of getting there and sometimes

not getting there.

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Well, I do want to ask you about the sharpest new shiny space telescope in the shed, which

happens to be here, the James Webb Space Telescope or JWST.

We already knew back then in the late 80s, 1990s that the universe was expanding.

We knew that to see the very first galaxies and maybe even the first stars that ever formed

in the universe because of the expansion of the universe, the light from those galaxies

is likewise expanded and it shifted from blue wavelengths to longer wavelengths, red

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