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So Mars just is like, it feels like the planet that has most, most captured our imagination.

The imagination of the science fiction community, I think, has been most captured in its whatever

couple hundred years run that we're at now.

But really, like in the last century, like, Mars has been the setting for so many different

things.

And it's that planet that is like us, but not.

And so it's just there.

And so I picked it for that reason.

Hello, I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith.

I study parasites and space. And, you know, I love science, but I got to be honest, I don't really listen to a lot of science podcasts. History podcast is my thing. And I am such a huge fan of the revolutions podcast.

Hi, I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist and I'm a big fan of science and history and especially the history of science.

I really enjoy trying to get into the minds of people in the past before they understood

something that we now take for granted to try to grok what it was like to learn that or to live

in a world when you didn't know that because I feel like there's such a huge intellectual

distance between us and people who

didn't know that the earth is round or moves around the sun or the universe is so vast. Yeah, I've

been reading the Journal of Parasitology starting at 1912, moving to the present. And I feel like every

once in a while, you'll catch a paper where they'll be explaining like, oh, this is how something

works. And you know, as a scientist in the present, that they're wrong.

But you can totally see their reasoning.

And I feel like it helps you remember to be humble because things that can seem right and seem

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