When we put prayers to end extreme poverty into practice, there's no going back.

Yes, thank you Isaac. I was just about to get on to that.

You see when...

When we are trained in new skills, we can provide for ourselves.

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To donate, search for Tier Fund No Going Back. Welcome along to a special extra podcast this week. I'm Justin Briley the host of

Premier Christian Radio's UK Faith Debate Show and Podcast Unbelievable. It's a show that brings and podcast unbelievable.

It's a show that brings together different points of view to talk about theology and faith and to defend the Christian worldview.

And you may well be listening to this and are unfamiliar with the show, well you can find it and the

podcast at premiere dot all. UK slash unbelievable.

But what you're here today is not the program as it normally stands. As well as hosting the radio show

I'm a contributor to Christianity magazine in the UK and was asked in December to

interview Mark Driscoll about his new book Real Marriage written with wife Grace, and about his own story as a popular

and occasionally outspoken church leader in the US. Mark is pastor of Mars Hill Church, Seattle,

which has grown from scratch to over 12,000 members in 15 years.

So we recorded an interview which you'll hear in just a moment, and those who are regular

listeners to unbelievable will know that I played a segment of it during the show that went out on Saturday

the 31st of December in anticipation of the full interview appearing in written form in the

next edition of Christianity. Well some of the statements that Mark made about the British Church in that part of the interview were reported this last week on some news sites.

Christian today ran a story titled, Mark Driscoll takesn at the cowards in the British Church.

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