The many lives of Taiwan
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PJ Vogt
4.8 • 5.1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 May 2026
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
We go deep into the story of Taiwan. How a tiny island escaped demise, chartered a course from colonial subjugation through mass Barbie production and into the technological powerhouse it is today.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello. Before we start this week, a quick announcement. Next month, June 16th in Brooklyn, |
| 0:05.9 | I'm going to be part of a night of readings. It's part of this reading series called Friends with |
| 0:10.3 | Words, hosted by writer and director Susanna Fogel. The theme of the night is writers reading |
| 0:15.4 | risky work that they feel scared to read on stage. I will be there. Alongside This American Life's |
| 0:20.8 | Ira Glass, Amelia Clark from Game of Thrones, fiction writer Kristen Rupennian. It is a stacked lineup. There's even more people. I think it's going to be a special night. The venue is roulette in Brooklyn. June 16th. Tickets are 25 bucks. There will be a link in our show notes. One night only. Okay, here's this week's episode after these ads. I'm Welcome to Sturgeon. |
| 1:08.9 | No question too big, no question too small. |
| 1:12.3 | President Trump met last week in China with President Xi Jinping. They talked only a bit about |
| 1:18.5 | one of the biggest points of contention between our two superpowers, the one I was listening for, |
| 1:23.7 | Taiwan. Taiwan is an independent democracy 100 miles southeast of China's coast. |
| 1:36.1 | China wants to take Taiwan for itself, but the U.S. for decades has stood in the way. |
| 1:41.5 | Taiwan also happens to be where almost all of the high-quality graphics chips driving the AI race are made. |
| 1:48.0 | If either country controlled Taiwan, the AI race would be fundamentally over. |
| 1:53.2 | That is most of what I knew about Taiwan before this week's episode. |
| 1:57.0 | I knew about it as an object in two other country's designs. |
| 2:03.6 | I didn't know much more about the place itself. How did Taiwan become a democracy? |
| 2:05.6 | How did Taiwan end up manufacturing all those high-tech chips? |
| 2:08.6 | How did an island this tiny become one of the most important places in the world? |
| 2:13.6 | So I did what I do these days when I'm curious. |
| 2:16.6 | I asked Garrett Graham, our show's senior producer, |
| 2:20.1 | to find me one of America's foremost experts on Taiwan, |
| 2:23.4 | and also to select someone who's a really good storyteller. |
| 2:26.9 | It took them all of two days. |
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