The Many Contradictions of a Trump Victory

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🗓️ 16 November 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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As Donald Trump prepares to enter the White House for a second term, the reasons people voted him into office are becoming more clear.

For Micki Witthoeft, it’s cause for celebration. Her daughter, Ashli Babitt, was shot and killed by a police officer after storming the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. Today, Witthoeft is confident Trump will stand by his word and pardon everyone involved.

“He said his administration's going to be one on ‘promises made and promises kept,’ ” she said. “I felt like he was talking right to me.”

But it’s not the same sentiment for all voters. This week on Reveal, we look at the many contradictions behind Trump’s victory, with stories from hosts Hanna Rosin and Lauren Ober of the new podcast from The Atlantic, We Live Here Now; Mother Jones reporter Tim Murphy; and Reveal producer Najib Aminy. We delve into January 6ers seeking pardons, “messy middle” voters who split their ballots, and members of the Uncommitted movement who wouldn’t vote for Kamala Harris despite being opposed to Trump.

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0:00.0	From the Center for Investigative Reporting and PRX, this is Reveal.
0:06.5	I'm Michael Montgomery in this week for Al-Letzin.
0:11.2	A few days before Donald Trump's election victory, his running mate, J.D. Vance, held a rally in Scottsdale, Arizona.
0:20.6	Mother Jones reporter Tim Murphy was there.
0:23.8	The race in Arizona was expected to be close, very close.
0:27.8	Tim went to the rally to talk to voters,
0:29.9	and he heard many of the same talking points he's heard
0:32.4	throughout his reporting on Trump.
0:34.6	He says it like it is.
0:35.8	He's good for business.
0:37.1	He'll close the border.
0:38.9	And while Tim was standing there, baking in the sun, waiting for Vance to take the stage,
0:43.4	he overheard a conversation between two voters that surprised him. It was a civil but passionate
0:49.8	debate over Arizona's proposition 139, a referendum that would guarantee the right to an abortion
0:55.8	in the state.
0:57.2	One person was against it, the other was very much in favor.
1:01.6	Her name is Stacey Boucher, and when Tim talked to her, she told him something he hadn't
1:06.3	heard at one of these rallies before.
1:09.3	That's why I can't call myself a true Republican.
1:11.6	Stand on my bedroom.
1:13.6	Stay on my address.
1:15.6	Stacey describes herself as 100% pro-choice.
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