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The Mandelson Files: Chaos Inside Labour? Plus: Sabah Choudrey on the Culture War over Public Spaces

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Pod Save the UK

News, News Commentary, Government

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

This week, Nish and Coco dig into the latest release of files around Peter Mandelson’s appointment as UK ambassador to the US, and what the hundreds of emails and WhatsApps reveal about Labour’s internal panic, Keir Starmer’s leadership, and a government that seems increasingly unsure of itself.

They also unpack Alan Milburn’s major review into youth unemployment. Is Britain dealing with a generation that doesn’t want to work, or a broken system that has stripped away routes into jobs, training and support?

Plus: Nish and Coco are joined by Sabah Choudrey, speaker, consultant and founder of Trans Pride Brighton, to discuss the EHRC’s new guidance on single-sex spaces, the worsening climate for trans people in the UK, and how a small network of gender-critical organisations has helped push trans rights into the centre of the culture war.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Nish Kumar. And I'm Coco Khan. Deja vu alert. Peter Mandelson is back in the headlines. Shocker. There's been a fresh release of files and messages which has raised more questions about his appointment and what he really thought of Kirstehmus government. We will be getting into it all with political journalists and Zoe Proudman. Also, on the show, a major review has warned that more than a million young people

0:21.6

in the UK are not earning or learning, so we'll be asking how Britain ended up with a generation

0:27.0

being told to get on in life while the routes to work, training and support have been quietly stripped back.

0:33.3

We'll also be looking into the EHRC's announcement that it would exclude transgender people from single-sex, toilets and changement.

0:39.4

We'll be joined by Sabah Chowdrich, speaker consultant, founder of Transpride Brighton, to unpack it all.

0:47.0

We've got a great show today, but before we get into the meat of it, we want to talk about the news that on Tuesday, Vikram Digwell was sentenced to at least 21 years

0:55.0

in prison for the horrific murder of Henry Nowak, an 18-year-old Southampton student.

0:59.9

The full horror of Noak's last moments after the release of police footage showing him

1:04.9

pleading for help was only just sinking in when Reform UK served notice that Nigel Farage

1:10.7

would be making an emergency

1:12.1

address. He paid tribute to the extraordinarily dignified response of the family, but then waded

1:17.6

in with remarks of his own, suggesting, I suggest the rest of us respond to this with pure,

1:23.1

cold rage. Politicians are now dealing with the fallout of thuggish rioting after hundreds of

1:29.1

people gathered outside a Southampton police station on Tuesday evening. The far-right activist

1:33.8

Tommy Robinson was among speakers who addressed the crowd. So this is obviously a story that's

1:38.6

still unfolding as we record on Wednesday. Henry's father, Mark Noak, condemned the inhumane and degrading treatment of his son by the police,

1:46.8

but added, we do not want his death to be used to create further division, hatred or tension.

1:52.3

We want his story to help make our streets safer for everyone,

1:55.9

which is a response of remarkable dignity and restraint by someone who is going through the worst

2:03.2

imaginable thing any human being can go through. I can't even imagine what they're going through

2:08.2

and I'm, I just, I wish, I wish their powerful words would be heard even just out of respect

2:14.0

for them, like to not increase their pain to have to even worry about this at

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