The man who would be PM: who is the real Keir Starmer?

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News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

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🗓️ 29 February 2024

⏱️ 52 minutes

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With a huge lead in the polls, all the signs point to Keir Starmer moving into Downing Street by the end of the year, so how well do we know the man who would be PM? Guest co-presenter Liz Bates attempts to get behind the rather dull public image, by interrogating Tom Baldwin, who spent hours talking to Starmer for his new authoritative biography of the Labour leader. The conversation takes an emotional turn when Liz and Tom discuss Starmer’s difficult relationship with his dad; how he couldn’t hug him on his deathbed, and then later found a hidden scrapbook that showed how proud of his son he really was. They also talk about what makes Starmer tick politically - is there such a thing as Starmerism? - as well as his love of football and music…and Tom reveals what Starmer thinks of the book! Nish joins Liz from Crooked HQ in LA to discuss the fallout from Lee Anderson’s expulsion from the party, and whether the Tories have an islamophobia problem. They also discuss the rogues gallery of candidates competing to win the Rochdale by-election, and Liz reveals what it’s like to get up close and personal on the campaign trail, with the bookies favourite George Galloway.

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0:00.0	Hi this is
0:05.3	This is Pod Save the UK. I'm Nishkumar and I'm Liz Bates standing in for Coco Khan
0:10.2	This week who is the real Kiea Starmer? I'll speak to journalist Tom Baldwin
0:14.8	about the book that's got Westminster talking, the revealing biography of the
0:18.9	labor leader. Plus why this week's Rochdale by-election is the most divisive in living memory.
0:24.7	And does the Conservative Party have an Islamophobia problem?
0:29.4	Yes.
0:31.0	Well that's that section done then. Nish, you're in LA.
0:36.0	Your instinctive broadcast journalism training just came out there without you being able to think about it.
0:42.0	You jump straight to the quick.
0:42.7	Nish, you're in LA and how is the mood? I am in Los Angeles. From LA, it's Nish. What can you see there on the ground?
0:52.1	I'm in Los Angeles and I am What can you see there on the ground?
0:52.6	I'm in Los Angeles and I am buried deep
0:56.4	within the mothership.
0:58.1	I'm at Crooked HQ and it's very nice and it's very clean. It's very clean. It says here,
1:06.8	Nish can you remind listeners Liz is a political correspondent for Sky News.
1:10.3	Go on. Yes, that's right.
1:12.1	Read your scripted Nish.
1:14.0	God, I feel like a disgraced politician.
1:20.0	I mean cross-examined by a journalist. This is absolutely brutal. I've got new sympathy for them.
1:27.0	Liz Bates is of course a political correspondent from Sky News.
1:30.0	Tell us about LA though, because I hear that there's some sort of passport,
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