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This is Deep State Radio.

Coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of

Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to a special edition of Deep State Radio.

I'm your host David Rothkoff coming to you from New York City coming to from

Washington DC we have two special guests Susan Glasser who is a staff writer at

the New Yorker and Peter Baker who is the chief White House correspondent of the New York Times, who have, as I suspect you know, because you are an audience full of foreign policy nerds, written a book that has already been widely hailed as one of the best of the year.

The man who ran Washington, the life in times of James A Baker the third,

and although it won't matter a wit, I do want to add my praise and appreciation

for the book. You've gotten fantastic reviews.

I read it obviously from the perspective of being a sort of foreign policy nerd,

which is a more perspective I'll admit,

but the book to me was incredibly relevant

because it's one of those books that,

while it uses James Baker as a kind of a lens on an era,

reveals what happened as American politics morphed from the old school ways that we read about and sometimes

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