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A Bit of Optimism

The Man Who Proved Me Right with CEO Bob Chapman and the Barry-Wehmiller Team

A Bit of Optimism

The Optimism Company from Simon Sinek

Self-improvement, Careers, Business, Management, Education

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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0:00.0

I wish leaders took leadership as personally as you.

0:05.6

They see it as a rancor position.

0:07.0

They see it as power and authority.

0:09.1

But they don't take it as seriously as raising a child.

0:11.4

And you take taking care of your people as seriously as taking care of your children.

0:17.2

You deeply mean it.

0:18.2

You deeply feel it.

0:19.8

I know people who turn it on and turn it off,

0:22.1

and you can't turn it off. It's core to who you are. I always say, Simon, you can retire from a job,

0:28.4

but you can not retire from a calling. And when I look today as we talk, the issues we face in the

0:34.3

world, I see business as a source of destruction, creating economic

0:38.8

value but not human value. And I feel a profound sense of responsibility. Change the way the world

0:44.7

sees its responsibility to people they have the privilege of leading. I imagine a world in which

0:50.6

the vast majority of people wake up every single morning inspired, feel safe

0:56.0

wherever they are, and end the day fulfilled by the work that they do. When most people hear

1:01.0

me say this, they think it's just the ramblings of a crazy idealist, and I would actually agree

1:07.0

with them, until I met Bob Chapman. When I met Bob, he claimed that he'd actually built a company

1:14.2

that embodied what I imagined. And to be honest, I didn't believe him. Again, I'm a crazy idealist

1:20.5

and what I imagine isn't supposed to exist in reality. It's supposed to be a striving, which is why I

1:27.0

wanted to go see for myself.

1:29.3

Bob has spent 50 years leading a company called Barry Waymiller,

1:33.3

and what started as a humble Midwestern manufacturing company is now a $3.6 billion

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