From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro. This is the Daily.

We want to begin tonight with yet another deadly mass shooting in America.

In 2023, the unrelenting epidemic of gun violence in the United States has claimed the lives of more than 41,000 people.

Two people killed dozens of others injured after gun.

The police commissioner again saying five people were shot, including two kids.

At least 18 dead, at at least 13 injured. And throughout the year, each and every one of those shootings,

from suicides to accidental shootings, to mass shootings,

was chronicled by a website

according to the gun violence archive according to the US gun violence archive according to the

gun violence archive called the gun violence archive that has become the most authoritative and widely cited

source of data about the country's ongoing crisis of gun deaths.

Today, a conversation with the founder of that site, Mark Bryant, about why he's

dedicated so much of his life to painstakingly chronicling a problem with no end in sight.

It's Monday, December 18th.

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon. How are you Mark? I'm doing good. I'm sorry we're good except we're good except I just hit the

microphone so yeah we're ready to we're ready to roll over here.

Good good good well Mark thank you very much for making time for us I really appreciate it.

Well thank you for having me. I just want to explain why we're talking to you.

We, the New York Times, the Daily, we cite this archive that you have created so frequently year after year and over time it occurred to us that you

Mark have become this really

unseen authority

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