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The New Abnormal

The Man Who Coined The Insult Trump Hates Most

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Joanna Coles and Samantha Bee sit down with the man who gave Donald Trump the insult which has got under his skin for decades: "Short-fingered vulgarian." Kurt Andersen, who edited Spy magazine in the 80s, dishes on how he went toe-to-toe with Trump when he was just a property developer—and skewered the millionaire's son from Queens every time. Andersen spills his theory of why Trump married Melania and reveals why the president couldn't bully Canada's new leader, Mark Carney, in the Oval Office. And Met Gala guest-turned-skeptic Joanna gives her thoughts on the celebrity night while Sam reveals what icon she has embroidered into her underwear.

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0:00.0

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0:34.9

Welcome, I'm Joanna Cole's chief content officer of The Daily Beast, coming to you with the Daily Beast podcast.

0:41.3

If you're a long-time fan of the pod, welcome to our new feed.

0:45.2

If you're a new abnormal listener, stick around.

0:48.1

We're bringing you more of the people, the politics and the pop culture coverage you need every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. Enjoy today's

0:56.5

episode. It is a wild one. Spoiler alert, they're always wild ones. And of course, joining me

1:02.8

today is my co-host, Samantha Bee. Yes, hello. How are you? Okay. Aren't you a chief

1:09.7

content officer too? Well, you were supposed to ask me, according to our script in front of us.

1:13.6

Oh, I ignored the script.

1:14.9

As usual, I've already veered off the scripts.

1:17.5

It's going to be difficult.

1:18.4

We're off peace.

1:19.2

And we've got a strange man sitting between us too, which is very odd.

1:22.7

But just tell me what you are, I'm chief content officer of, and then we can introduce

1:26.9

our strange guest.

1:27.8

Well, Joanna, just because you asked, this week I'm the chief content officer of hand-done crotch embroidery at the Met Gala.

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