And by the end of the first day, in work, my office mate, he just looked at me and he goes,

hey, I'm going to smoke a joint as you right now, so if you don't want to be around this,

you need to leave.

And I pulled out my joint, and he has ripped out this bag of stuff that's like green and purple

and really interesting looking.

He goes, no offense, but I'm going to smoke some real stuff here.

And so I thought, oh, you know, hot knob, that's interesting.

Hey, welcome to Commando on Demand, where we interview the movers and shakers and those who make a difference in technology and even how we live our digital lives.

I'm Mike James, and today we have a very special guest.

Kim welcomes Howard Scott Warshaw to Commando on Demand.

His name might not be familiar to you, but his work definitely is. Howard was one of the

most successful game designers at Atari during the height of their success. Kim talks to Howard

about some of the crazy things, well, you might have just heard one that were going on at Atari

and all the way through the gutting of the company and how he left to become a psychotherapist

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