When I was a coach, my wife wanted a bit of peace and quiet on the Saturday afternoon,

so I took Arna along to my games.

In the pre-match talk with the players, he always wanted to sit in the corner of the dressing room.

I used to say, you can go and kick a ball if you want. You don't have to sit here.

But he insisted on staying.

He wanted to know everything I said. He was only six or seven years old at that time. He even sat next to me in the dugout.

Welcome to What It Was What It Was, I'm Jonathan Wilson, I'm with Rob Draper, and that was Arant Schlot, Honestrott's father, talking about his young son and his introduction to coaching.

And today we're looking at the career of Arnashlott, looking at his origins, with Liverpool having just wrapped up their 20th league title.

So, Rob, where are we starting? Where is Arnashlott from?

Well, he's from Begantine on the German border of the Netherlands. And interestingly, it's not far away from where 810 grew up.

It's about 30 miles north of there. I've not been to Bergen time, but I have been to Huxbergin.

And just to put it in a sort of cultural context.

It's very flat, obviously, as you'd expect for Netherlands.

You can see forever.

Really nice, kind of pretty kind of middle class houses, little villages, lots of countryside,

lots of greenery, kind of windmills and things like that.

But people say quite Calvinistic, quite sort of, it's called Bible Belt, isn't it, in the Netherlands?

And I don't think he is particularly religious now, although one of Slots coaches says it's still quite a religious place.

And there's three churches where he comes from.

But it's the more conservative end of the Netherlands.

It's about as far as you can imagine from hippie, dope smoke in Amsterdam.

As, you know, it's really, it's not that.

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