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This is the Tom Hartman program.

On the line with us Maggie Haberman, the Pulitzer Prize winning senior political reporter

at the New York Times. She has a new book out confidence man,

the making of Donald Trump and the breaking of America.

And Maggie, welcome back to the program.

This is a Maggie NYT by the way on Twitter and of course New York Times.

This is a remarkable book. I remember back in the 80s, I lived in Germany for almost two years

and read in addition to Scherer's book about the rise and fall of the third Reich,

several biographies of Hitler.

And some of them just kind of reduced it to just this ordinary pedestrian notion of,

you know, the man. And I'd like to ask you, you know, what's your assessment of Donald Trump,

beyond all this, you know, all the detail and all these, in terms of his danger to America?

First of all, thanks for having me. Second of all, the assessment of him really is in the book.

I tried not to write a book of takes, I wrote a book of reporting and people can read from it

and take what they want from it. I think that where we see going forward with Trump,

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