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Our American Stories

The Making of an American Pantheon: Grant's Tomb

Our American Stories

iHeartPodcasts

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6817 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Our American Stories, presidential historian and author of Grant's Tomb: The Epic Death of Ulysses S. Grant and the Making of an American Pantheon, Louis Picone shares the story of the creation, degradation, and revitalization of Grant's Tomb.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:15.4

This is Lee Habib, and this is Our American Stories.

0:19.6

And up next, the story of Ulysses S. Grant, our 18th president.

0:23.6

But this isn't a story about his Civil War victories or his presidency.

0:28.6

It's about his final resting place.

0:30.6

Here to tell the story is Louis Pecone, author of Grant's tomb.

0:34.6

Take it away, Lewis. Grant was the most popular man in America,

0:41.3

but he was also perhaps the one figure that was admired by all sections and was really a unifier.

0:49.3

And this was a time when America was still greatly divided after the Civil War.

0:53.3

This was only 15, 18 years after the Civil War.

0:58.0

But he was beloved by Democrats and Republicans, by Northerners and Southerners, by whites and African Americans, by men and women.

1:06.0

In the North, he was the savior of the Union. He was a liberator of four million enslaved. But even in the South,

1:11.7

he was beloved. And it's just, it's fascinating to think about that because he was the victorious

1:16.6

general that defeated the South in the Civil War. But he was beloved because he was magnanimous.

1:21.7

He had given generous terms to Robert Lee at Appomattox, but also all throughout the war.

1:27.2

He was known for treating

1:28.5

Southerners with compassion, whether they were captured soldiers or whether they were

1:32.8

southern citizens. But he was diagnosed with inoperable throat and tongue cancer, which

1:40.0

at the time, a diagnosis of cancer was pretty much a death sentence. He died on July 23rd.

1:46.0

He was surrounded by all of his loved one.

1:48.0

He was surrounded by his children, by his wife Julia, by his doctors who he had grown so close with.

1:54.0

It was what's considered a good Victorian death.

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