The Making of a Swindler, Part 2

You Can’t Make This Up

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4.2 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

It’s clear that Simon is a criminal mastermind. But that level of skill requires practice, and a certain amount of pathology. In this episode, Felicity and Bernadette try to understand the mind – and methods – of the Swindler. We hear from an old friend - patient zero if you like - who knew Simon before he was The Prince of Diamonds. The Making of a Swindler is a companion to the documentary, The Tinder Swindler, now on Netflix. The Making of A Swindler is produced by RAW and NETFLIX. Presenters: Bernadette Higgins, Felicity MorrisProducers: Bernadette Higgins, Felicity MorrisSeries Producer: Georgina SavageExecutive Producer: Deborah DudgeonResearcher: Lucy BarnesSound Design: Emma BarnabyOriginal Score: Jessica JonesJunior Production Assistants: Rowan Lee-Potter, Shemsije ZeqiriProduction Executive: Nageena AhmedRaw’s Head of Podcasts is Sarah Harris, and the Head of US Production is Kate Leonard-Morgan

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0:00.0	As I told you before, I'm willing to cope with you, 100% to devote myself for this mission that called Next
0:12.6	Netflix and to bring the best outcome for me and for you
0:16.8	and to make it something that never has been done before.
0:22.4	This is Simon Lviv. a voice note he sent me after his release from prison in Israel in May 2020.
0:30.0	You don't know me, you don't know something, but we definitely can do the something that never been done before, never been seen before, which of course going to be bringing you on Netflix a lot, a lot, a lot of profits and a lot of things and it will be beneficial for both of us.
0:44.0	I'd been in touch with Simon to offer him the right of reply,
0:50.0	an opportunity to answer the allegations we were making against him in our Netflix film, the Tinderswindler.
0:57.0	Hi Simon, as I mentioned in my last message to you, We are in production on the film. We'd still really, really like to speak to you, but as we hadn't heard anything back from you or your representatives, we're presuming that you didn't want to be involved, but let me know if I've misunderstood
1:16.2	this.
1:17.2	Whilst at first, Simon seemed interested in taking part, once he heard that the film was going to be about the victims and not just about him, he became agitated, and our voice memo exchange became a cat and a cat and mouse game which led us in circles.
1:39.0	He insisted that the women were lying.
1:42.0	You know the people you talk to, I know the people you approach to,
1:46.0	I know at all.
1:49.0	I don't want it to be participating in something which I don't have control over.
1:53.7	You're not going to represent me at the truth, you're going to represent what's going to sell
1:57.7	more and what going to be.
1:58.9	And this is my problem.
2:00.1	If it wasn't this way, it's all then I won't mind. But once it is like this way, so yeah.
2:06.0	So you can say one thing, the whole world is going to see another thing.
2:10.0	And as soon as I will see something which is not right, my lawyers will be more than happy to sue everything,
2:18.3	because everything you're based on stories of other people, you don't base it on reality and truth and facts and this is my problem.
2:27.6	Simon was only willing to be involved if he could control our narrative.
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