The Making of a Moral Leader: The Story of Chaplain Colonel Shabazz
What's Ray Saying?
Ray Christian
5.0 • 644 Ratings
🗓️ 25 March 2026
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Summary
In this three-part series, Ray sits down with Chaplain Colonel Khallid Shabazz — a Muslim chaplain, a combat-tested officer, and a man who has spent his career navigating faith, duty, and the contradictions of military life. Through candid conversation and hard-earned truth, Ray explores what it means to serve a country that doesn’t always serve you back, and how a Black Muslim officer carries moral authority inside an institution built on hierarchy, obedience, and tradition.
This series digs into the personal cost of leadership, the ethical weight of orders, and the quiet courage required to speak truth inside a system that often prefers silence. It’s a story about faith under pressure, conscience in uniform, and the long shadow of American history — told through the life of a man who has lived all three.
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| 0:00.0 | What's Ray saying? |
| 0:05.0 | In every generation of the military, there are people who step into roles no one before them has held. |
| 0:20.0 | They don't just serve. |
| 0:21.6 | They represent change. |
| 0:26.6 | Today we begin with the story of chaplain Colonel Shabazz, |
| 0:30.6 | the first Muslim full colonel chaplain in the United States Army. |
| 0:35.6 | His journey isn't just about faith. |
| 0:39.3 | It's about identity, service, and what it means to carry the weight of being the first |
| 0:47.3 | in an institution that often struggles to understand the people it depends on. |
| 0:53.3 | Our chaplains are chaplains, not emotional support officers, and we're going to treat them as such. |
| 1:00.0 | We are going to make the Chaplain Corps great again. |
| 1:04.0 | And as the Secretary of Defense calls for reforms to the Chaplains Corps, voices like his subtly feel more important |
| 1:13.6 | and more vulnerable than ever. |
| 1:17.6 | There are people in this world who carry the weight of others, |
| 1:22.6 | people who step into the darkest moments of someone's life and offer light. In the military, |
| 1:32.3 | those people are rare. And the ones who try to change the institutions from inside, they're even rare. |
| 1:41.4 | This is the story of one of them. |
| 1:47.0 | Colonel Shabazz didn't come into the world destined for leadership. |
| 1:52.0 | He came from trauma, chaos, and a childhood that nearly broke him. |
| 1:58.0 | He was, by his own words. |
| 2:01.5 | That was hour away from suicide. |
| 2:03.8 | That moment didn't just change his life. |
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