The Making of a Manager with Julie Zhuo
Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger
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4.6 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 11 April 2019
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Congratulations, you're a manager! After you pop the champagne, accept the shiny new title, and step into this thrilling next chapter of your career, the truth descends like a fog: you don't really know what you're doing.
That's exactly how our latest guest, Julie Zhuo, felt when she became a rookie manager at the age of 25. It’s also why she felt compelled to write her first book, The Making of a Manager: What to Do When Everyone Looks to You.
She stared at a long list of logistics, from hiring to firing, from meeting to messaging, from planning to pitching, and faced a thousand questions and uncertainties. How was she supposed to spin teamwork into value? What was the secret to leading with confidence in new and unexpected situations?
Now, having managed dozens of teams spanning tens to hundreds of people, Julie knows the most important lesson of all: great managers are made, not born. If you care enough to be reading this, then you care enough to be a great manager.
The Making of a Manager is a modern field guide packed everyday examples and transformative insights, including:
* How to tell a great manager from an average manager
* When you should look past an awkward interview and hire someone anyway
* How to build trust with your reports through not being a boss
* Where to look when you lose faith and lack the answers
Whether you're new to the job, a veteran leader, or looking to be promoted, this is the handbook you need to be the kind of manager you wish you had.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, it's Jill Schlesinger. On this episode of Jill on Money, |
| 0:06.7 | we're talking about how to make you a better manager. |
| 0:10.3 | A manager should be a leader, should be seen as a leader in order to be successful, but management is a role. |
| 0:16.0 | It can be given to you, it can be taken away from you, whereas leadership is something you have to earn. |
| 0:21.0 | You know, if people don't want to follow you then you're not successfully being a leader. |
| 0:26.0 | Welcome to the Jill on Money Podcast. I am your host Jill Schlesinger and today we've got a really interesting guest. Her name is |
| 0:35.2 | Julie Zoo. So she is VP of Product Design at Facebook but she's here joining us today as an author. The book is called The Making of a Manager. |
| 0:47.8 | Julie recounts her transition from a worker to a manager, what she learned, her foibles, the upside, the downside, and of |
| 0:56.4 | course I couldn't help myself. I had to ask her a few questions about Facebook and what's |
| 1:00.4 | going on, this craziness around this company, but I think what is |
| 1:04.4 | is perhaps most relatable is how hard it is sometimes to transition |
| 1:09.3 | to a different role in the same company. |
| 1:12.3 | So here's our interview with Julie Zoo. |
| 1:15.8 | You're listening to Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger. |
| 1:19.2 | Julie Zoo, welcome to the program. How are you? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me Jill. |
| 1:24.0 | We start our program with one very important question. I have a feeling which way you're |
| 1:29.1 | going to go with this but maybe I'm wrong. We like to ask what is the best career or investment or financial decision you've ever made the best. |
| 1:40.7 | Joining Facebook, a startup at the time that was a college site back in 2006. |
| 1:47.0 | That's a pretty good one. |
| 1:48.0 | So you were there through the IPO, you're a gazillionaire now essentially, right? |
| 1:52.0 | I've been very lucky to work at a company. You're a gazillionaire now essentially, right? |
| 1:52.8 | I've been very lucky to work at a company |
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