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Hey there, stackers, we are away this week.

If you're new to the show once every eight weeks, we take a break for the week.

Make sure that the basements all picked up.

Mom is happy with us and we get a little bit more shut eye.

However, we don't want to leave you with nothing.

In fact, we want to leave you with something even better this time.

That's why the Fin turn isn't here with the greatest hits episode.

Instead, we're going to play an episode from our sister show stacking deeds

because this has a lot to do with more than real estate.

I spoke with Mark Ellison on this episode.

And if you've never heard of Mark, you might, however, have seen his work.

Mark works on some of the most beautiful houses in Manhattan.

And in fact, therefore, some of the most beautiful houses anywhere you could argue.

New York magazine calls him a maestro when it comes to construction.

But what I love about this interview, especially for our stacker family,

is that it's not about the work that he does construction.

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