Hey there, Stackers. We are away this week, if you're new to the show, once every eight weeks.

We take a break for the week. Make sure that the basement's all picked up. Mom is happy with us.

And we get a little bit more shut eye. However, we don't want to leave you with

nothing. In fact, we want to leave you with something even better this time. That's why the

Fintern isn't here with the greatest hits episode. Instead, we're going to play an episode from

our sister's show, stacking deeds because this has a lot to do with more than real estate.

I spoke with Mark Ellison on this episode.

And if you've never heard of Mark, you might, however, have seen his work.

Mark works on some of the most beautiful houses in Manhattan. And in fact, therefore, some of the most beautiful houses in Manhattan.

And in fact, therefore, some of the most beautiful houses anywhere, you could argue.

New York Magazine calls him a maestro when it comes to construction.

But what I love about this interview, especially for our Stacker family, is that it's not about the work that he does,

construction. It's about people and relationships. And this is so much of what it takes to

actually make money. It is who you know. It is who you trust. It is the people that you surround yourself with.

And Mark Ellison, a guy who pounds nails for a living, proves that on today's episode.

This is our stacking deeds real estate podcast from just a few short weeks ago.

We hope you enjoy it.

Music from just a few short weeks ago. We hope you enjoy it. Live from Joe's Mom's Basement,

it's The Stacking Deed Show. I'm Roots part-time mechanic, and this show... mom's basement. It's the stacking deed show.

I'm Ruth's part-time mechanic and this show's announcer, Neighbor Doug.

That's right, Ruth the Realtor's car is parked and the team is gathered for a big announcement in the basement.

But also, today's a special show because we're talking about the art of creating

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