Welcome to the next level. I'm J. L. here with my best friends Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the Bulwark.

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foe-free with no ads every day. That all sounds nice, but they should also tell their pals.

Tell your pals about us, you know?

Then you can have a little something to talk about,

you know, you guys can riff on how wrong or right we are sort of you know reflect on the

funniest lines that I had over the course of a podcast you know it helps

it helps build community so that's just might be a good idea.

Tim, do you want to spend any time excluding JVL by talking about our in-person live event from last week and how great it was?

Man, thank goodness JVL wasn't there.

Do that at the end.

It was nice.

I was a little toasty.

Sarah was a little concerned about me.

She asked me for a count on my, on the number of verbons I had.

I told her it was a gentleman's three. Was it just the right amount for hosting a live event? You know, not one too many, not one too few.

I'm surprised you went Bourbons instead of edibles since everyone tells me how great they are.

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