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Bulwark Takes

The MAGA Heir No One Took Seriously… Until Now

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Egger talks with JVL about a 2028 scenario that sounds ridiculous at first… until you actually walk through the logic. A surprise contender is polling near the top of the GOP field and could have a clearer path to the nomination than anyone wants to admit. They break down why the Republican primary may be effectively frozen for 2028, how the MAGA base shapes the field, and why some of the most obvious candidates could be boxed out before the race even begins.

Read more from JVL's Triad: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-second-coming

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0:37.7

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but 2028 is already right around the corner.

0:43.2

We are going to have presidential candidates coming out of our ears much sooner than any of us are prepared for.

0:49.1

I guess in a sense, it's fine.

0:51.0

It's starting to look like, you know, at least as compared to this time last year,

0:55.3

the odds of a Trump three coming down the pipe at us are a little bit diminished. The man is

1:03.0

very unpopular. He's very old and tired. It's not clear he even really wants to, but never say never.

1:09.6

And there are a lot of other Republicans that we're going

1:11.7

to need to be familiarizing ourselves with. So JVL, our fearless leader, he wrote in his triad

1:17.0

today, basically an early handicapping of the 2028 GOP field. And we're going to talk about it a little

1:24.7

bit. JVL, want to talk us on a little bit?

1:33.0

First of all, maybe let's just put it this way. Who do you like? Who's in there that's fun and exciting and ready to, ready to, you know, set aside all of the likelihood things? But is there

1:37.7

anybody in there that would set your little Reform O'Con heart, pitter pat going into

1:43.1

2028? No. And I just, I just want to say, for anybody who thinks that I was doing this just to stir

1:50.6

things up or because I didn't have anything else to say, not true. We are either back on for

1:58.3

our ceasefire or back off of our ceasefire.

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