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🗓️ 8 October 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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In this week's episode, Paul and Kate head to 1971 Yuba City, California where a body is found in an orchard. After another body is found nearby, a larger search is initiated and yields enough results for a two-part episode.
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| 0:00.0 | This is exactly right. |
| 0:06.3 | Two rich young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over, |
| 0:11.0 | but one of them will end up dead and the other tried for murder three times. |
| 0:16.2 | It starts with a dream, a nature reserve and a spectacular new home. |
| 0:20.6 | But little by little, they lose it. They actually lose it. |
| 0:23.6 | They sort of like nuts. |
| 0:25.1 | Until one night, everything spins out of control. |
| 0:32.3 | Listen to Hell in Heaven on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:44.5 | I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime. |
| 0:51.2 | And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator who's worked some of America's |
| 0:55.1 | most complicated cases and solve them. Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most |
| 1:01.1 | compelling true crimes. And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights |
| 1:06.3 | to old mysteries. Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases |
| 1:13.3 | through a 21st century lens. Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones. Hey, Kate, how are you doing? |
| 1:47.7 | I'm great. How about you? Is it getting colder there? It's October-ish. |
| 1:57.0 | It's starting to turn. You know, Colorado is always up and down when it comes to the weather, but usually right around Halloween is when we can expect our first snow. |
| 2:02.0 | So is the big weather, it has to be blizzards, right? Those are the big weather events. I mean, are there anything, is there anything that's so unusual? You go, it's never going to happen here. |
| 2:05.6 | And it happens because we get that a lot in Texas, frankly. Sure. Well, I would say when we first moved here in |
| 2:13.2 | 2018, that's when we had this massive hailstorm, which totaled my wife's minivan. We literally |
| 2:21.7 | had the insurance company total it and buy her a new car. We had hail the size of oranges |
| 2:27.8 | that were coming down. So, I mean, crazy. Roofs were, you know, crushed. All the tile roofs in |
| 2:33.8 | the neighborhood looked like they were in a war zone and we're like, is this what we're going to be experiencing all the time? And it turns out, no. I mean, we get hail here routinely. You see a lot of cars that have a lot of dents and a lot of repair shops, but not hail the size of oranges. That was unusual. When I was a kid, and I think we've probably |
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