Oh, Number on, today's guest, today's guest, we've got Sandra, you're a criminologist and you're here the day you've worked on the look

Mitchell case for the last 16 years fighting for his freedom.

Yeah. How are you Sandra? Yeah I'm well thank you. Thanks for giving us the time to come into your

housing. Tell the story and I got I get

talked about this case it was actually last week with a man called George Steele who spent 18 years

in prison himself for a crime he didn't come up.

We're six murders. A card where six members of the Doyle family were murdered in a fire.

So it was Joe actually mentioned. Look Mitchell and if I'm honest I know look as newspapers as

monster evil stuff like that what I portrayed I don't know anything about the case I actually dipped

into a little bit for the last week and you sent me some stuff yourself and there is a

question mark for my opinion on the case and it was just to see if you could shed some light on

where it all began with you and why you get involved so much so deeply involved in it

and if we can go right back to the start we'll start off with what's your relationship with the Mitchell family?

At the time I didn't know them, I didn't know Jody's family, the victim's family.

I had no connection with them, whatsoever. The reason I got involved in any way,

Jody was found behind the high school that my eldest daughter attended. My girls,

I have two girls who were round about Jody's age and she was found behind

that high school and so we lived locally obviously the gossip from pretty much the first day was incredible and I

started to think well hang on and you know they've gone after this lad immediately.

What if it wasn't him?

What if it's actually somebody else and my girl's safe?

And that was what started the whole thing was their safety.

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