4.6 • 661 Ratings
🗓️ 13 April 2021
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Keith and Kenny Lucas spent 9 years developing, pitching and ultimately co-writing ‘Judas and the Black Messiah.’ It was all worth it when they landed a Best Original Screenplay Oscar nomination for their work. On this episode, the identical twins talk about dropping out of two separate law schools to become a stand-up comedy team, why they have more or less disowned their 2017 Netflix special ‘On Drugs.’ They try to get the bottom of how the two actors who play the title characters in their film—Daniel Kaluuya and Lakeith Stanfield—both ended up getting nominated in the Best Supporting Actor category and also dig deep on the “codependency” that has defined their lifelong relationship, which once included sharing a therapist.
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0:00.0 | Before my guests on today's show scored a pair of Oscar nominations for writing Judas and the Black Messiah, |
0:07.2 | they may have been best known for this scene in a little movie called 22 Jump Street. |
0:13.4 | I don't know, at the end of the day, you just kind of want something that's just a little deeper, really. |
0:17.0 | Yeah, balls deep, man. |
0:19.2 | Jinks buy me a Coke. |
0:20.8 | Oh, snap, man, we're still saying the same thing. |
0:23.2 | This is amazing. |
0:24.4 | Carrots, pomp and nickels, glow sticks, twins. |
0:28.0 | This is the last laugh. |
0:34.3 | I'm Matt Wilstein from The Daily Beast, and today on the show, we have our very |
0:39.0 | first set of comedian twins, The Lucas Brothers. Heath and Kenny Lucas have a fascinating story |
0:46.0 | that started in the Newark Projects, includes dropping out of two separate law schools to become |
0:51.6 | a stand-up comedy team, and culminates this month at the Academy Awards, |
0:56.4 | where they are nominated for Best Original Screenplay for co-writing Judas and the Black Messiah. |
1:02.9 | Their deeply conflicted feelings about Hollywood ended up being a big theme of this conversation, |
1:08.8 | and I really think you're going to enjoy it. Oh, and after 106 episodes, |
1:14.1 | I may have finally stumbled upon a name for the ever-evolving segment that ends every episode |
1:20.3 | of the show. So definitely stick around for that as well. But now, here's me with the Lucas Brothers. |
1:30.7 | Well, first of all, I just have to congratulate you guys on the Oscar nominations. It's incredible. It's very exciting. I saw you, I think it was |
1:36.5 | on Instagram you posted that you are the only six comedians before you guys nominated for |
1:42.6 | screenplay nominations. So that's pretty exciting. |
1:45.7 | Yeah, it's a remarkable history because I'm a student of history and I, you know, |
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