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podcast I am delighted to share a conversation with the artist Susan Lickman.

Susan lives and works in Massachusetts the artist Susan Lickman.

Susan lives in Massachusetts and is an associate professor of fine arts at Brandeis University.

In this episode, Susan and I talk about our mutual love for literature.

She shares a couple of books that were recommended to her by Andrew Forge during her studies at Yale.

Susan noticed that a lot of artists that she admires also love Dustyevsky.

So she asked her friend Robin Foyer Miller, who just happens to be the leading expert on Dustyelski, why artists like Mark Rothko and Philip

Guston were so attracted to Russian literature.

Well, now Susan and Robin co-teach an art and literature course at Brandeis University, and I have

to say I am dying to crash that course.

Susan insists that she is a terrible storyteller, but after talking with her, I completely disagree.

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