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The Lost Woolly Dog

Sidedoor

Smithsonian Institution

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4.6 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

For thousands of years, fluffy white dogs could be found across the Pacific Northwest. Their exceptionally soft, crimpy hair was shorn like sheep’s wool, spun into yarn, and woven into blankets and robes by indigenous women who carefully tended them in communities across Coast Salish territory. But a hundred years ago, the woolly dog quietly vanished. Why? 

Today, the only known pelt of this extinct breed is in the collections of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History, and it might hold some answers. Through collaborate research combining Western science with Indigenous knowledge, we delve into this animal’s genome to learn the real story of the woolly dog’s disappearance.

 

Guests:

Audrey Lin, evolutionary molecular biologist, research associate at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History and postdoctoral scholar at the American Museum of Natural History

Logan Kistler, curator of archaeobotany and archaeogenomics in the anthropology department of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History 

Liz Hammond-Kaarremaa, master spinner who studies traditional Salish textiles as a research associate at Vancouver Island University and the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History

Steven Point / Xwĕ lī qwĕl tĕl, grand chief of the Stó:lō Tribal Council, chancellor of the University of British Columbia, former lieutenant-governor of British Columbia, retired judge, and member of the Skowkale First Nation

Debra Sparrow / θəliχʷəlʷət, weaver, artist and knowledge-keeper from Musqueam. Foundational Salish weaving revivalist who, with her sisters, she has worked for decades to rejuvenate and teach traditional Salish weaving. 

Violet Elliot / Snu’Meethia, weaver and teacher from Snuneymuxw First Nations living in Cowichan First Nations. She has been weaving for over 28 years.

Melissa (Missy) Hawkins, curator of mammals at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History 

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Side Door, a podcast from the Smithsonian with support from PRX.

0:13.3

I'm Lizzy Peabody.

0:14.4

Early in the pandemic, Audrey Lynn was at home on her phone doing what many of us were doing.

0:30.0

I was just doom scrolling when she came across an article that caught her attention,

0:35.2

had you ever heard of the woolly dog before?

0:38.0

No, not before reading the article.

0:39.6

I've never heard about them before.

0:41.2

I read this article and was just absolutely enthralled by the story.

0:47.3

In the article, Audrey read that for thousands of years, small fluffy white dogs could be found across the

0:55.3

Pacific Northwest. Some of these dogs lived on islands where they had their meals

1:01.3

brought to them by women in canoes.

1:05.0

And only these powerful women were allowed to keep these dogs.

1:10.0

Just the image of women, you know, surrounded by this flock of lovely white dogs.

1:17.0

I really liked it.

1:19.0

The dog's hair was special.

1:21.0

It grew soft and long, long enough to be combed out, shorn, spun, and woven

1:29.4

into blankets by indigenous peoples of the Coast Salish Territory.

1:35.0

But as Audrey read on, she learned that about a hundred years ago,

1:39.0

these woolly dogs disappeared.

1:41.0

They were gone.

1:49.9

And then she read something that made her leap right off her couch. The only known woolly dog pelelt is in the Smithsonian collections.

1:55.4

Audrey was like, hold the phones, the Smithsonian? I work there.

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