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Federalist Radio Hour

‘The Lost Decade’: How DEI Cheated Our Children

Federalist Radio Hour

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.53.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of "The Federalist Radio Hour," Steven Wilson, a senior fellow at the Pioneer Institute for Public Policy Research and co-founder of the National Summer School Initiative, joins Federalist Senior Elections Correspondent Matt Kittle to discuss the downfall of the American education system and explain whether it can be redeemed. 

You can find Wilson's book The Lost Decade: Returning to the Fight for Better Schools in America here

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0:00.0

And we are back with another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour.

0:22.7

I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at The Federalist and your experience

0:27.4

Sherpa on today's quest for knowledge.

0:30.3

As always, you can email the show at radio at thefederalist.com.

0:34.7

Follow us on X at FDRLST.

0:39.6

Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast and, of course, the premium version of our website as well. Our guest today is

0:45.2

Stephen Wilson, Pioneer Institute scholar and former charter school head. We talk about his new book,

0:52.2

The Lost Decade, returning to the Fight for Better Schools in America.

0:58.6

In it, he talks about how social justice and trauma-informed teaching are tanking test scores and damaging students' development.

1:09.6

Stephen, thank you so much for joining us on this edition

1:11.8

of the Federalist Radio Hour. Matt, it's a real pleasure to be with you. Thank you. Absolutely.

1:16.4

This book just recently published, correct? Yeah, just two weeks ago. So there's nothing that I enjoy

1:23.0

more than fresh pages in a book. And here we are. You, in it, you argue that social justice education, we've heard all about social justice

1:35.0

over the last several years in this country from the far left in particular.

1:40.3

Social justice education, the decades de facto K-12 school reform strategy, is harming the very

1:49.6

students it aims to help.

1:51.9

Let us begin there because that really is at the cornerstone of your argument and in many

1:57.1

ways where we stand in America.

1:59.4

Yes, that's precisely the case that I try to make,

2:03.6

which is that efforts, which began with a noble and urgent purpose,

2:10.3

which is to address the achievement gaps that we all decry on both the left, center, and the right, that these particular

2:21.2

efforts are having the reverse effect. That is, they are leaving students who are ready,

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