You're going to go. We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Jershensky

culture editor here at the Federalist as always.

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Federalist.com as well. All right today I'm very excited to be joined by

Wilfred McClay. Wilfred McClay is a professor at Hillsdale College actually

has an amazing title at Hillsdale College actually has an amazing title at Hillsdale College and that would be

the one and only Victor Davis Hanson chair at Hillsdale College a professor professor of history, over at our friend, over with our

friends at Hillsdale and has a really interesting new paper out on restoring civics in higher education.

We're going to focus specifically actually on citizenship and civics,

that kind of combination of both those things. So Wilfred McLean, thank you so much for joining

the show. Hi Emily, it's good to be with you. Yeah, absolutely.

Now, if you could start just by maybe telling us

a little bit about what Americans should know,

this is a huge question, of course,

but a good place to start.

What Americans should know about the sort of Western tradition

of citizenship, what's so special about it,

and why it's an important foundation,

even if that foundation has sort of been lost,

but why it is such an important foundation to our

system of government and culture. Well yeah that's a big question I think in the

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