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The Trey Gowdy Podcast

The Lost Art of Etiquette: Navigating Life’s Most Awkward Moments

The Trey Gowdy Podcast

FOX News Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.76.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

How much does etiquette still matter? Trey is joined by lawyer and White House etiquette expert Alison M. Cheperdak to cross-examine the rules of modern civility. From the "correct" way to handle a close-talker to the high-stakes world of handwritten notes and wedding invites, Alison breaks down her new book, Was It Something I Said? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Trey. Thank you for joining us for a Tuesday edition of our podcast. Hope your march is off to a great start. If you grew up in the home I grew up in, there were certain rules. You are going to write a thank you note for a gift regardless of whether you like the gift or not, you're going to write a note,

0:39.5

not a text, not a warm thought, but a handwritten note.

0:44.7

You're not going to start eating until my mom, who was the chef, sat down, period, no exceptions.

0:51.4

You're not going to get up until the last person finished eating, which,

0:56.3

you know, it's hard to eat and talk at the same time. So at least one of my three sisters was

1:00.5

always the last one to finish her meal while the rest of us were just kind of cooling our jets.

1:05.4

But you could not get up until everyone had finished, which, yes, it was every bit as long as you're imagining

1:12.7

it being, you're not going to end a sentence in a proposition. Heaven help you if you use

1:19.0

a four-letter word in our household, you would not live to see the sun go down if my father

1:24.8

were around. And if you did it around my mom, you wouldn't get

1:30.2

the death penalty, but you would learn the taste of ivory soap. So is that old fashion? Is it basic

1:37.6

etiquette? Does etiquette matter anymore? Are there societal rules? And if so, what are they? And how do we handle those awkward

1:47.6

experiences that we seem to find popping up from time to time? We are joined today by a subject

1:56.4

matter expert. She is a lawyer, but she's an etiquette expert with a book titled, Was It Something

2:05.7

I Said? And usually the answer is yes. Whenever somebody asked me that, was it something I said?

2:12.1

I always say, yes. But that might not be the right response. We're going to find out.

2:24.4

Allison Shepardack is the author. She's also a lawyer, although she may not want me saying that.

2:31.6

Some people want to keep that a secret. But, well, you got, you have JD behind your name. So you're not trying to keep that a secret, are you?

2:33.0

I'm not trying to keep it a secret.

2:34.3

Okay. All right.

2:39.7

Well, I didn't want to, I mean, look, different people have different thoughts about lawyers, but you're not like a trial lawyer or are you?

2:43.1

No, I worked in big law right out of law school, and then I worked in the administration

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