The Lord of the Rings x Arcadia with Text Me Back! With Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays
Material Girls
Rehak Hannah
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 9 December 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
We always nerd out, but in this episode we're joined in our geek sesh by the incredibly charming, brilliant and funny Lindy West (she/her) and Meagan Hatcher-Mays (she/her) to discuss (drumroll!) The Lord of the Rings trilogy. As you may already know, Hannah and Marcelle share a love of JRR Tolkien's world and in this episode they finally get to discuss Peter Jackson's adaptation from the early aughts.
The episode begins with an overview of the books' popularity in the middle of the 20th century and their lasting impact on fantasy and science fiction literature, television and film. Hannah then offers some context for the release of The Fellowship of the Ring. Together, we consider the desire by the public to escape in a post 9/11 world and the fantasy of a pastoral utopia! Hannah then offers some theory! We're talking Arcadia people!
This episode is a perfect listen for fans of The Lord of the Rings, as well as anyone who has ever fantasized about knitting in a cottage away from the hustle and bustle of industrialized cities!
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Frey, Angelica. “Cottagecore Debuted 2,300 Years Ago.” JSTOR Daily 11 November 2020. https://daily.jstor.org/cottagecore-debuted-2300-years-ago/.
Huffstutter, P.J. “Not Just a Tolkien Amount.” LA Times 24 October 2003. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-oct-24-fi-frodoecon24-story.html.
Kruske, Kyle. “Lord Of The Rings’ Hobbiton Shire Set Took A Whole Year To Make.” Screenrant 18 December 2021. https://screenrant.com/lord-rings-hobbiton-shire-set-one-year-build/.
Lois, Gemma. “‘The Lord of the Rings’: A Thematic Echo Of The Industrial Revolution – Extended Edition.” A Musing Clio 23 June 2025. https://gemmahistory.home.blog/2025/06/23/the-lord-of-the-rings-a-thematic-echo-of-the-industrial-revolution-extended-edition/.
Sanders, Sam. “Tolkien Acknowledged That Black People Exist in Arda, So Why Can’t Everyone Else?” Vulture 16 September 2022. https://www.vulture.com/article/rings-of-power-black-hobbits-lord-of-the-rings-amazon.html.
Shanahan, Paula. “Authentic Fantasy: The Representation of the Shire as a Nostalgic Arcadia.” Thesis. Submitted to the Department of Design and Visual Arts in candidacy for the Bachelor of Arts Degree in Design for Stage and Screen, 2023. https://illustro-iadt.figshare.com/articles/thesis/Authentic_fantasy_The_representation_of_the_Shire_as_a_nostalgic_arcadia_Astudy_of_the_visual_and_design_references_within_the_shire_in_the_film_adaption_of_The_Lord_of_the_Rings/25435744?file=45129961.
Wikipedia, the encyclopedia of the people. 2025.
More Info:
For more Lindy and Meagan, check out Text Me Back! — one of Hannah McGregor's all-time favorite podcasts! You can also follow them on Substack here! Be sure to pre-order Lindy West's upcoming book Adult Braces: Driving Myself Sane.
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Music Credits:
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| 0:13.0 | I need a new mind |
| 0:17.0 | I need a new brain |
| 0:18.0 | I want to take a ride |
| 0:20.0 | on a mini train. |
| 0:21.6 | You can have it all at the champagne. |
| 0:29.4 | Hello and welcome to Material Girls, a pop culture podcast that uses critical theory to understand the zeitgeist. |
| 0:36.3 | I'm Marcel Cosman. |
| 0:39.0 | And I'm Hannah McGregor. |
| 0:46.4 | And today we are talking about not one, not two, but three entire movies in one hour. |
| 0:47.4 | How are we going to do it? |
| 0:48.3 | Impossible to say. |
| 0:53.7 | But to help us, we have not one, not two, but two guests. That still works. Go with it. Lindy West, |
| 0:56.9 | pronouns she her, and Megan Hatcher-Maze, pronouns she-her, are the hosts of the brilliant podcast, |
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