The Loop Episode 3: No Violence

Ear Hustle

Ear Hustle & Radiotopia

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.9 • 21.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

At Crossroads, just three little letters — SMD — can spark some very big drama. This episode is all about conflict: watching it, responding to it, and getting it started. Keys fly, milk is thrown, and insults are hurled, while adults and kids figure out how to deal with it and keep the peace.

This is the third episode of “The Loop,” Ear Hustle’s six-part series about kids in New York City who are caught up, one way or another, in the criminal justice system.

Ear Hustle would like to thank: Joanne Smith-Darden, Associate Professor, School of Social Work, Ruth T. Koehler Endowed Professor in Children's Services, Michigan State University and Co-Director, SPARK Lab; Heather McCauley, Associate Professor, School of Social Work, Michigan State University and Co-Director, SPARK Lab; and Adam Brown, Associate Professor, Silberman School of Social Work at Hunter College, City University of New York, for their tremendous support of this project.

Big thanks, too, to the Drama Club team — including Josie Whittlesey, Cesar Rosado, Tiffany “Tiny” Cruz, Abby Pierce, Sophie Jones, and Ashley Adams. You can find out more about their work here.

And thanks to Nancy Ginsberg, Aylese Kanze, and Commissioner Danhauser at New York City’s Administration for Children’s Services for saying “yes” to this project.

As always, thanks to Warden Andes and Lt. Berry at San Quentin Rehabilitation Center; Acting Warden Parker, Associate Warden Lewis, and Lt. Newborg at the California Institution for Women; and Warden De La Cruz and Lt. Williams at the Central California Women’s Facility for their support of our work.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hey, your hustlers, it's Nigel.
0:02.5	And Erlon, we're here to say thank you for spending time with us this year.
0:08.1	It's really amazing, Erlon, to look back on everything we did this year.
0:11.8	I am really proud of the episodes we did about Death Row, both at San Quentin and the one at the Central California Women's Facility.
0:20.3	Yeah, this is also the year we launched our first series, The Loop, about kids caught up in the criminal legal system in New York.
0:27.7	And some of our listeners might know this, but there's so much that goes on behind the scenes to get earhustle episodes to you.
0:34.5	And I don't just mean making the stories themselves.
0:39.3	Yeah, it's everything from connecting us with sponsors, creating community with other podcasts, and all the technical
0:43.9	behind-the-scenes stuff of sending a podcast into the world. Oh my God, Erlon. I couldn't do
0:50.0	any of that. I mean, I knew about making stories, but everything else, oe.
0:55.5	Being a part of Radiotopia from PRX means we get a lot of help with all of that,
1:00.2	so we can focus on making these stories that you hear on Ear Hustle. Very few podcast networks
1:05.3	champion independence like Radiotopia does. If you pay attention to the headlines,
1:10.4	you know it's a tough time for public media.
1:13.0	We are so grateful that Radiotopia gives your hustle the freedom to make the decisions that are right for us.
1:19.4	The annual Radiotopia fundraiser just launched, and we're trying to reach 1,500 donors before the end of the year.
1:26.3	When you donate to Radiotopia, the money is split amongst all the shows in the network.
1:31.4	If you love your hustle, if you want shows like ours to exist and thrive and help other
1:36.4	Radiotopia podcasts exist and thrive, please donate today at Radiotopia.fm.
1:42.8	slash donate.
1:44.3	That's Radiotopia.fm.fm slash donate. That's Radiotopia.com slash donate.
1:48.2	Thank you so much.
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