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The Jim Hill Media Podcast Network

The Long, Strange Journey of The Cobbler and the Thief (Ep. 326)

The Jim Hill Media Podcast Network

Jim Hill Media Podcast Network

Places & Travel, Society & Culture, Tv & Film

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Jim Hill and Drew Taylor wrap up September with a packed episode of Fine Tooning. From this year’s sold-out Halloween Horror Nights in Hollywood to the long, winding saga of Richard Williams’ unfinished opus The Cobbler and the Thief, the guys cover the latest in animation news, box office battles, and even a courtroom clash over Steamboat Willie. Highlights from Universal Studios Hollywood’s Halloween Horror Nights 2025 Pixar’s Gatto facing off against heavy-hitting sequels in 2027 Crunchyroll’s Oscar campaign for Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle Richard Williams’ book Adventures in Animation and the legacy of The Cobbler and the Thief With October on the horizon, Jim and Drew bring insights, history, and some big questions about the future of animation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Why are businesses like HelloVet choosing Apple products and services?

0:04.8

So we started the business two years ago.

0:07.2

We had a few people who were used to PCs and this was their first foray into Macs.

0:12.5

But it's been super smooth getting everyone onto those devices and everyone seems really, really happy.

0:18.0

Find out how Mac can help you run and grow your business at Apple.com forward slash hello vet.

0:26.2

Welcome back to fine-tuning with Drew Taylor, your one-stop shop when it comes to animation news and commentary.

0:32.2

I'm entertainment writer Jim Hill and Mr. Taylor, whose writings on the industry you can regularly read over on the rap,

0:39.6

and whose musings on the Mission Impossible movies you can still listen to on, like the fuse,

0:45.0

the official Mission Impossible podcast. So, now, Drew, we are recording this on Sunday, September 28th.

0:56.5

And you, just last night, were over at Universal Studio Hollywood doing Halloween Horror Night.

1:04.4

And what time did you get home?

1:07.1

I got home before 11, so I'm proud of that.

1:11.1

Oh, yeah.

1:12.2

Skip the tarotram, but, you know, there's a 3D animated movie as part of Halloween Horror Nights this year, a chainsaw man movie that actually premiered here and at the Japanese park simultaneously, which is very cool.

1:31.0

So, yeah.

1:32.3

Wow.

1:33.3

Where are they showing that?

1:34.5

They are showing that in the DreamWorks Theater where Kung Fu Panda usually is and where the, I forget what the property was for Fan Fest Nights was.

1:45.2

One piece.

1:46.0

One piece.

1:46.6

Yes, one piece.

1:47.4

No, it wasn't One Piece.

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