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I feel the responsibility not to take up too much of your time in a way that I don't typically with a guest.

Yeah, I appreciate that very much.

The interviews I do for this podcast, they go long, and so it's a bit of a time commitment for the folks that we speak with.

And I take these conversations for granted sometimes.

I mean, this, literally, the ability to be upright with a clear head, to speak for minutes

at a time, it takes energy.

Yeah, I want to be able to function in the next days after this.

And if you have the collection of symptoms known by doctors by any number of names,

chronic COVID, long-haul COVID, post-acute COVID-19,

you know that you must preserve your energy because you need it.

You need it to explain what's going on to your family and to your friends and your boss.

And unless your doctors are up on the latest research, you'll be talking them through your

mixed bag of symptoms, that your heart is pounding, a pins and needles feeling in your body,

or maybe brain fog, and of course, fatigue. And before you ask,

there's no official test for long COVID-19. Your chest x-rays fine. Your echocardiogram's fine. So that

means you're not really having palpitations, or maybe it's anxiety or all in your head. So that's sometimes the difficulty with diagnosing

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