I mean, you got bumped for Bill Gates, man.

I was that bumped for Bill Gates.

Where'd he go? I got bumped for Bill Gates, you know?

And like, that was the tough phone call, Tate.

Welcome to Sincast, presented by CinemaSense.

All right, everybody. Welcome to the Sincast, this is Chris Atkinson from CinemaSense, joined by Barrett Shayer.

Hello.

And today we have a very special guest, it's director Joshua Zeman, who has made a documentary called The Loneliness Whale, The Search for 52.

He comes out in theaters July 9th and digital on July 16th, Joshua. Welcome.

Thanks for having me, much appreciated.

Yeah, absolutely. How long have you been working on this documentary?

Yes, yes, thank you. First question I had.

Damn it. 10 years.

10 years.

You, I actually thought it was a little bit shorter than that.

But even that was long still seemed like a long time to me.

I think the earliest year I hear in this is 2015 or something like that.

Yeah.

But what, what, what started you in on this journey?

Um, I had broken up with a girl and I had heard in the story of the acts that everybody says the same thing.

And I interviewed people and I was like, and when are you going to tell me about the breakup?

And so I had like, you know, like heard the story really quickly and I was like,

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