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Going Wild with Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant

The Lizard Lassoer

Going Wild with Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant

WNET

Science, Pets & Animals, Nature, Kids & Family, Natural Sciences

4.9636 Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

*Content warning: this episode contains descriptions of violence that might be disturbing to some listeners.* Herpetologists do a lot of unique things while studying lizards—cut their toes, pump their stomachs, and capture them by lassoing their necks. That one small word, “lasso,'' wasn't always the word used in the discipline. Herpetologist Earyn McGee, one of the few Black, female scientists in the field, proposed researchers stop using the word “noose” to describe capturing lizards, and start using a more accurate, less oppressive word, like “lasso.”  Thanks for listening! If you want to support us, you can follow “Going Wild” on your favorite podcast listening app. While you’re there, please leave us a review - it really helps.  You can also get updates and bonus content by following me, Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant, and PBS Nature on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook. And you can catch new episodes of Nature Wednesdays at 8/7c on PBS, pbs.org/nature and the PBS Video app. Follow Earyn McGee on Twitter and Instagram and listen to more "Going Wild" HERE. This episode of “Going Wild” was hosted by me, Dr. Rae Wynn-Grant. Production by Caroline Hadilaksono, Danielle Broza, Nathan Tobey, and Great Feeling Studios. Editing by Rachel Aronoff and Jakob Lewis. Sound design by Cariad Harmon.  Danielle Broza is the Digital Lead and Fred Kaufman is the Executive Producer for Nature.  Art for this podcast was created by Arianna Bollers and Karen Brazell.  Special thanks to Amanda Schmidt, Blanche Robertson, Jayne Lisi, Chelsey Saatkamp, and Karen Ho.  NATURE is an award-winning series created by The WNET Group and made possible by all of you. Funding for this podcast was provided by grants from the Anderson Family Fund, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and PBS. Views and opinions expressed during the podcast are those of the individuals expressing them and do not necessarily reflect those of THIRTEEN Productions LLC/The WNET Group.

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0:00.0

So in 2017, I was working at this really amazing science institution.

0:08.0

And one of the things that I got to do at my job included this outreach program with kids.

0:16.0

And part of it was getting these urban public school city kids, you know, into the wilderness and taking

0:23.3

them camping.

0:28.3

We set up tents and had them camp under the stars. We would set traps and catch snapping turtles.

0:50.3

One of the main goals was to be really inspiring and kind of training these young kids of color to, you know, be the next scientists. And it was a small part of my job at that institution,

0:58.1

but it was one of my favorite parts of my job there.

1:02.2

And yet, you know, not everything was perfect.

1:07.9

Because a few weeks after that outdoor trip, a big national tragedy occurred.

1:13.6

White pride, there's nothing wrong with being robbed anymore.

1:17.6

There's this big demonstration of white supremacist in Charlottesville, Virginia.

1:23.6

And things had turned violent when a car was driven into some counter protesters and someone was killed.

1:31.3

The car just plowed through hundreds of people downtown Charlottesville.

1:38.3

And I remember the day after walking into work and being really crushed by this and distracted and confused.

1:56.1

I sat down in my office and, you know, I looked at the news and I saw that so many, like,

2:03.6

big science institutions were releasing statements saying that racism has no place, you know,

2:09.8

in their institutions. And, you know, it's like, it's just words. And yet it offers some, like, emotional support.

2:20.6

And I kept waiting for my institution's statement to pop up.

2:28.2

And, like, the day went on and it never did.

2:34.0

And I found myself thinking about those kids that I was just with.

2:39.3

And these kids were primarily like black and brown future scientists who might one day work at that institution. And it was during that time I made a personal commitment to unapologetically include social justice advocacy in my science work.

3:02.7

And I found myself emailing the president of my institution and demanding that our institution

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