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Two years ago, Wright Response Ministries had the privilege of hosting Dr. and Pastor Vodibachim

for a conversation about Christian nationalism, about division within the church,

and about what having a Christian nation actually looks like. And in this conversation, they

discussed this all-important point that really in the last two years I think we all feel is just

as timely and if not more relevant today, that division is not necessarily a bad thing. That division is what God

actually uses to separate those who are in the fight versus those who are out of it, those who are

serious about their faith, those who are serious about pressing forward the crown rights of

King Jesus, and those who really are actually more content to stay on the sidelines.

Funnily enough, sure, there are those that hate Christ and they hate Christianity. Of course,

they don't want a Christian nation. But often, honestly, it's those that claim to be Christians

that say they love Jesus. And then when it gets to the point of, so do you want Jesus to be

enshrined at the highest levels of your government?

Do you want to see the state obey him?

Do you want to see his principles lived out across a nation and families and churches?

Also, those who profess Christ say they love him, say they want to obey him.

It gets to that point and they say, ooh, no, that's icky, that's political. We don't want that.

And division with those kind of people, it's not actually a bad thing. And so in this conversation

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