The Liverpool Exchange

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.7 • 38.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In the 1980s, Liverpool was having what journalists called a heroin epidemic. The chairman of a local organization where people would go for drug counseling told a reporter, “We are on the brink of complete catastrophe.” Then a small group of people decided to try something. Maia Szalavitz’s book is Undoing Drugs: How Harm Reduction Is Changing the Future of Drugs and Addiction. Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. Criminal is going back on tour in February! We’ll be telling brand new stories, live on stage. You can even get meet and greet tickets to come and say hi before the show. Tickets are on sale now at thisiscriminal.com/live. We can’t wait to see you there! Sign up for Criminal Plus to get behind-the-scenes bonus episodes of Criminal, ad-free listening of all of our shows, members-only merch, and more. Learn more and sign up here. Listen back through our archives at youtube.com/criminalpodcast. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Support for this show comes from Krakan.
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0:07.0	It doesn't care where you come from, what you look like, your credit score,
0:11.0	or your outrageous food delivery habits.
0:13.7	crypto is finance for everyone everywhere all the time.
0:18.4	Krakhan, see what crypto can be.
0:21.3	Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.
0:25.0	This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. Hi, it's Phoebe. This February, we're celebrating 10 years of criminal with a live tour.
0:38.0	If you've never been to one of our live shows, we pack the night with brand new stories, plus video and
0:45.1	photos of the people you're hearing about and original animations. You'll learn
0:49.2	how to be a pickpocket, I'll be wearing a tuxedo. Just kidding. Well, maybe. We're planning a very
0:56.5	special anniversary evening. We'll be in Seattle, San Francisco, L. A. St. Paul,
1:01.4	Chicago, Boston, Toronto, New York, Philadelphia, D.C. Raleigh, Dublin, and London.
1:08.0	Tickets are on sale now at This Is Criminal.com slash live.
1:12.0	We can't wait to see you there.
1:14.0	Let's just start with you both introducing yourselves.
1:21.0	I'm Lynn Matthews. and I'm Alan Matthews. And tell me a little bit, I mean, both
1:28.0	of you worked with heroin users for a long time. Did you, have ever ever have any of you ever tried heroin?
1:35.0	Of course, yeah.
1:37.0	Yeah.
1:38.0	A little hippies.
1:40.0	Yeah.
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