You're listening to the CyberWire Museum in Washington, D.C.

I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum.

I served for some 36 years in the Central Intelligence Agency,

largely as what is called an Operations officer or a case officer.

Every month will be bringing you

interesting talks with visitors, with authors,

with others who have something to do with the world of intelligence

and espionage.

Today is the 1st of December 2006.

And we are going to take you back to one of the high periods of the Cold War and to one of the

extraordinary events that happened during that period and that will be what

came to be known as the defection of Stalin's daughter. And my guest today is Bob Rail,

who was a career CIA officer,

and was the individual who actually escorted her

out of New Delhi,

an event that captured headlines around the world

and put him and the whole event on the front page of Time magazine

and newspapers all around the world.

Now by pure happenstance, a member of our board,

General Oleg Kalugin,

whom you have heard previously,

happened to stop by this morning,

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