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Nobody Should Believe Me

The Lisa Campbell Goins Case with Mike Weber

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Andrea is joined once again by retired detective and medical child abuse expert Mike Weber to discuss a case that closely mirrors patterns we saw in season 6 of the show. The conversation centers on a caregiver who presented a child as chronically and mysteriously ill, resulting in repeated hospitalizations and invasive medical interventions.  Together, Andrea and Mike examine the systemic failures that allowed the abuse to continue despite prior warnings, including gaps in CPS oversight, lack of training, and reluctance to act without a catastrophic trigger.  * * * Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy.  Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here.  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

Hello, it's Andrea, and today we have a familiar and always welcome voice, Detective Mike Weber, who is going to tell us about a case that has some really haunting parallels to our season six case,

0:22.1

and not only because both perpetrators are named Lisa, though that is an odd detail.

0:26.8

As many of you know, Detective Mike is my co-author on my nonfiction book, The Mother Next Door.

0:31.8

He is retired, but still very active, consulting on cases and doing trainings around the country.

0:37.5

We always appreciate hearing from him.

0:39.9

The team and I are currently hard at work on season seven, and before that, we've got some

0:45.0

incredible case files episodes coming up, including a conversation with probably my most requested

0:51.1

guest ever. Truly, a big full circle moment for Nobody Should Believe Me.

0:55.3

We also have some exciting news to share, which is that Nobody Should Believe Me has been

0:59.2

nominated for an Ambie Award for Best True Crime Podcast. I am super honored to be nominated by

1:04.3

the podcast Academy because these are my peers and it's really special to be recognized by them.

1:09.2

As always, if you want more Nobody Should Believe Me, you can subscribe on Apple or Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus episodes, and binge drops of the new season. Thus, the best way to support the show, and if monetary support is not an option, rating, reviewing, and telling friends about the show are all great ways to help us out. And a reminder that if you have questions or want to

1:27.8

share feedback, the best way to get in touch is by reaching out at hello at nobody should believe me.com.

1:33.0

I know things are really intense out there right now, and I hope you're finding comfort and

1:37.2

community with one another wherever you are. Thank you for being part of this community and showing up

1:41.9

here each week. I appreciate you. We'll be right

1:44.3

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