The Lingering Aftertaste of Fascism

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3 • 882 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

What’s a fascist anyway?

It’s a word we heard a lot over the past few years. If you’re on one side of the political debate you probably used this word earnestly. If you’re on the other side, you probably think people use it because they’re too embarrassed to call their political opponent Hitler.

But it’s an important word with several very real definitions. Musolini is not Hitler is not, dare I say it, Tr0ump. But, from a certain point of view, all these men are fascists. Worth noting at the top here that Jason doesn’t agree with me on this point. Or, at least, doesn’t always agree with me. With all this baggage around the term fascist, is it even worth using?

Here to help us figure that out is Jason Stanely. Stanley is a professor of Philosophy at Yale and the author of the book How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them. Sir, thank you so much for joining us.

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0:00.0	Love this podcast support this show through the a cast supporter feature
0:05.1	It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. I debate this with people. You could say that he tried to be a fascist leader, but just... you could
0:25.0	do it do it,
0:29.0	do it, you could do it, or you could say that he just,
0:31.0	he didn't, he didn't, if you look at say the Turkish coup against
0:35.3	the Erdogan that didn't succeed they didn't have the kind of follow-through and
0:39.3	Trump has not shown that maybe he's not interested in showing that.
0:43.9	Obviously, if you go that route and you fail,
0:47.4	there are very bad consequences.
0:49.9	So he didn't follow through.
0:52.1	He didn't try to completely, he did try to take over the party.
0:58.0	The justices he appointed are still ruling and according to law.
1:02.6	I don't want to be cliche here, but our system has so far at least worked. One day all of the facts in about 30 years time will be published. When genocide has been carried out in this country almost with impunity,
1:28.0	and when it is near completion, it was also about intervention. yet completion.
1:36.0	They will be completely. They will be met with fire, fury, and frankly power,
1:40.0	the likes of which this world has never seen before. Hello, welcome to angry plant. I'm Matthew Galt. And I'm Jason Field. So what is a fascist anyway?
2:12.0	It's a work we heard a lot over the past few years. If you're on one side of the political debate you probably use this word earnestly.
2:18.8	If you're on the other side you probably think people use it because they're too embarrassed to call their political opponent Hitler.
2:25.0	But it is an important word with several very real definitions.
2:28.6	Mussolini is not Hitler is not, dare I say it, Trump. But from a certain point of view, all of these men are fascists.
2:37.0	Worth noting at the top here is that Jason doesn't agree with me all the time on this particular
2:41.6	point. With all this baggage around the term
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