The Line Between Independence and Insurrection

Notes from America with Kai Wright

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News Commentary, Politics, History, News

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🗓️ 4 July 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Decoding the Jan. 6th Insurrection – what we should have learned from the past and what we must remember for the future.

This Independence Day weekend, host Kai Wright is joined by Andrea Bernstein and Ilya Marritz, who previously hosted Trump Inc. They discuss their new 8-part podcast series, Will Be Wild, which examines the forces that led to the January 6 Insurrection and what comes next.

Companion listening for this episode:

Can America Be Redeemed? (7/5/2021)

Eddie Glaude and Imani Perry consider the question through the work of James Baldwin and Richard Wright. Plus: How our country could enter a period of “post-traumatic growth.”

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0:00.0	So with Independence Day right around the corner, a lot of people are thinking about the promise
0:06.5	of America and with everything is happening socially, politically, culturally, how are you
0:12.2	feeling about the state of American democracy right now?
0:14.8	I am ready to move out of the country, not even kidding.
0:18.8	Gosh, the promise of America, I just think we as a country have come to recognize more
0:26.1	and more that there's a lot to grapple with and come to terms with.
0:30.6	I can't say that we have the best country in the world anymore.
0:33.7	Supreme Court turned their back on women, so yeah, devastation would be a good word.
0:38.8	Subscribe to us.
0:39.8	It's really just how more worse it's going to get from here.
0:44.0	You know, Roe vs. Way, gun violence, everything that's going on in the world.
0:49.4	I'm ready for the bleeding to stop.
0:57.1	Welcome to the show.
0:58.5	I'm Kai Wright.
1:00.1	So I've got a July 4th tradition, which I've had since high school, and over the past couple
1:04.6	of years, we've made it a tradition on this show as well.
1:08.7	Every Independence Day, we read a portion of Frederick Douglass' speech, what to the slave
1:13.8	is the 4th of July.
1:15.8	So in 1852, the Rochester Ladies' Anti-Slavery Society invited Douglass to address an event
1:21.6	commemorating the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
1:25.1	He was an enormously popular speaker at this time in this speech, which he actually gave
1:30.0	on July 5th.
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